WASHINGTON (AP) — As they investigate President Donald Trump, Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee will hold their first official hearing in what they are calling an impeachment investigation.
Corey Lewandowski, Trump's outspoken former campaign manager, was scheduled to appear Tuesday to discuss the report by special counsel Robert Mueller.
It's unlikely that Democrats will get much new information. A devoted friend and supporter of Trump, Lewandowski is not expected to elaborate much beyond what he told Mueller's investigators last year. Mueller himself testified this summer, with no bombshells. Two other witnesses who were subpoenaed with Lewandowski — former White House aides Rick Dearborn and Rob Porter — won't show up at all, on orders from the White House.
The hearing underscores what has been a central dilemma for House Democrats all year: They have promised to investigate Trump aggressively, and many of their base supporters want them to move quickly to try to remove him from office. But the White House has blocked their oversight requests at almost every turn, declining to provide documents or allow former aides to testify. The Republican Senate is certain to rebuff any House efforts to bring charges. And moderate Democrats in their own caucus have expressed nervousness that impeachment push could crowd out their other accomplishments.
Still, the Judiciary panel is moving ahead, and approved rules for impeachment hearings last week. Among those guidelines is allowing staff to question witnesses, as will happen for the first time with Lewandowski.
Lewandowski was a central figure in Mueller's report, which said Trump could not be exonerated on obstruction of justice charges. Mueller's investigators detailed two episodes in which Trump asked Lewandowski to direct then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit Mueller's investigation. Trump said that if Sessions would not meet with Lewandowski, then Lewandowski should tell Sessions he was fired.
Lewandowski never delivered the message but asked Dearborn, a former Sessions aide, to do it. Dearborn said he was uncomfortable with the request and declined to deliver it, according to the report.
Porter, a former staff secretary in the White House, took frequent notes during his time there that were detailed throughout the report. He resigned last year after public allegations of domestic violence from his two ex-wives.
In letters to the committee on Monday, the White House said that Dearborn and Porter were "absolutely immune" from testifying. White House counsel Pat Cipollone wrote that the Justice Department had advised, and Trump had directed, them not to attend "because of the constitutional immunity that protects senior advisers to the president from compelled congressional testimony."
In a separate letter, Cipollone said that Lewandowski, who never worked in the White House, should not reveal private conversations with Trump beyond what is in Mueller's report. He wrote that his conversations with Trump "are protected from disclosure by long-settled principles protecting executive branch confidentiality interests."
Democrats say the White House's rationale is not legally sound. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler said in a statement that the White House's position is "a shocking and dangerous assertion of executive privilege and absolute immunity."
He added: "The President would have us believe that he can willfully engage in criminal activity and prevent witnesses from testifying before Congress — even if they did not actually work for him or his administration."
To try to pry documents and testimony from the Trump administration, the Judiciary panel has filed two lawsuits — one against former White House counsel Donald McGahn, who also defied a subpoena this year on Trump's orders. But the lawsuits could take months to resolve and Nadler has said he wants to make a decision by the end of the year on whether to recommend articles of impeachment.
Nadler, D-N.Y., made his views clear in an interview Monday with a New York radio station, saying that in his opinion, "impeachment is imperative" to "vindicate the Constitution."
But he acknowledged that it won't be easy, echoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi by saying they need greater consensus than they do now to vote on impeachment. He said the hearings will decide whether American people get there or not.
"No. 1, you don't want to tear the country apart," if the public sentiment isn't there, Nadler said. "No. 2, you need 218 votes on the House floor." And whether they get the 218 votes or not, the Republican-controlled Senate is virtually sure to acquit.
One of the main reasons the votes aren't there yet is because moderates in the caucus — many of whom are freshmen who handed Democrats the majority in the 2018 election — are worried it will distract from other accomplishments. A group of those freshmen met with Nadler last week to express concerns.
"There's far too much work left to be done, and we are in danger of losing the trust of the American people if we choose partisan warfare over improving the lives of hardworking families," wrote New York Rep. Max Rose, a Democratic freshman, in a Friday op-ed in the Staten Island Advance newspaper.
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